The Skeptic’s Guide to the Universe

 

Skepticast #39: April 19th 2006

 

Topics:

Segment #1. News Items: Sad Monkeys, The Gospel of Judas, Polar Ice Caps, More Quackery

Segment #2. Your E-mails: Skeptical toolbox, Gene Multiplication

Segment #3. Interview with Marilyn Mandala Schlitz, Ph.D.

Segment #4. Science or Fiction

 

 

Segment #1. News Items

 

News Item #1 – Sad Monkeys

http://www.seedmagazine.com/news/2006/04/sad_monkeys_placeholder.php

 

News Item #2The Gospel of Judas

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/060406_codexfrm.htm

 

News Item #3 – Polar Ice Caps follow up

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/qthinice.asp
 
http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/041222_permafrost.html
 
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32821
-        cryosat 2 launches in March 2009
 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/09/020902072155.htm
 
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ice_sheets.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060308211836.htm
- most recent NASA data

 

News Item #4Two studies to foil the quacks

Mercury Amalgam no associated with pediatric problems

No benefit from spinal surgery with fetal cell implants from Chinese clinic

 

Segment #2. Your E-mails

 

E-mail #1 – Skeptical Toolbox


Greetings!

I love the show. This show is a fantastic resource for someone like me. While I have the skeptical mindset, I do not have the tools to deconstruct some of the paranormal things that I hear about. This show helps to give me the ability to take bunk theories apart.

Recently I was in a discussion about 9/11 and I use the term that you introduced me to, "anomaly hunting." It helped me convince some people that the 9/11 conspiracy is really far fetched.

I'd like to suggest a segment to your show. I would love it if you took time out of every show to describe a tool in the "skeptic toolbox." You could talk about a part of the scientific method, a logical fallacy with examples, or points of view that will help the listener become a better skeptic.

Keep up the great work!

 

Cecil

 

 

E-mail #2 -  Scientific Legitimacy

 

 I just wanted to let you all know how much I love your show. I absolutely LOVE it. We just recently discovered your podcast and are now furiously downloading all of your archived casts.  I must say (and this may sound odd), but your podcast actually has given me an amazing sense of comfort.  Being a skeptic often results in a feeling of isolation from the general public, and this is particularly true in the case of religious beliefs.  In the rare cases I have revealed my atheist beliefs to others; it has generated anger and fear. I read a survey recently that revealed that when given the choice, the average person would rather have a lesbian as president than an atheist. Atheists seem to be at the top of america's most hated list - which is amazing given the level of animosity homosexuals have been forced to live with. I am left with the very odd feeling that I have a dirty secret that I must keep close to me, that if people knew what I really believed they would fear, or even hate me for it. It used to make me angry - now just saddens me. I live in Arizona, and grew up in Texas, both very conservative states, so I wonder if others experience the same fervor.

So I keep my blanket of like-minded friends around me, all the while knowing that the majority of the world around us is very different. This way of thinking that seems to have separated me from most of the people around me has now given me a connection, through your podcast, to complete strangers miles and miles away. That little blanket of like-minded people is much bigger than I thought, and I am greatly comforted by that.

You all have a great dynamic together and your enthusiasm for and love of science is just terrific. Each of you has a unique way of looking at the issues, and all have such a great sense of humor about it – some more acrid than others! You are constantly reminding me of how absolutely incredibly wonderful this planet, this universe is and how much there is to learn. I need more than one life time to soak it all up!

I know this is a labor of love for all of you and that it takes a great deal of time that you could be devoting to other equally rewarding parts of your lives. I am so glad you all have chosen to do this. Thank you!

Kim
drizzlypeas@yahoo.com


PS - Where can I find Evan's cartoon Arnie's World??

Finally...My Question:  In my line of work I am constantly confronted with scientists who essentially "prostitute" themselves and the truth out to the highest bidder. I would really enjoy hearing your perspectives on that. Superficially, they often appear to be true to the scientific method and are even considering the same raw data as other studies. However, their use of that data, and the statistical analyses performed can of course dramatically impact the final outcome – the answer. Given this, how does the average person really evaluate the legitimacy of medical claims, environmental issues, health studies on constituents in food, pesticides etc.? One could make the effort to determine who the study was funded by - but how?

Sorry for my rambling.  Thanks again to all of you!!

 

 

E-mail #3 - Can you tell me what is gene multiplication?

akshaya

 

 

Segment #3. Interview with Marilyn Mandala Schlitz, Ph.D.

http://www.marilynschlitz.com/Home.php

 

Dr. Schlitz currently serves as Vice President for Research and Education at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and Senior Scientist at the Research Institute, California Pacific Medical Center. You can read her complete bio on her website (above).

 

Excellent summary of the Ganzfeld experiments: http://skepdic.com/ganzfeld.html

 

 

Segment #4. Science or Fiction

Each week our host will come up with three science news items or facts, two genuine, one fictitious. He will challenge our panel of skeptics to sniff out the fake – and you can play along.

 

 

Item#1: New study by Belgium psychologists suggest men bargain less aggressively when confronted with images of sexy women.

 

Item #2: Eating more olive oil and fish and less meat and dairy was associated with a significantly lower risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease.

 

Item #3: New study shows that fetuses are capable of feeling pain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Answer:

 

Item #1: Science - http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060417/full/060417-1.html

Item #2: Science – http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060417/full/060417-2.html

Item #3: Fiction – see below

 

 

Item#3

Fetuses cannot feel pain, says expert

Can fetuses feel pain? BMJ Volume 332, pp 909-12

There is good evidence that fetuses cannot feel pain, says an expert in this week's BMJ.

Proposals to tell women seeking abortions that their unborn child will feel pain, or to provide pain relief during abortions, are therefore scientifically unsound and may put women at unnecessary risk, argues Stuart Derbyshire, a senior psychologist at the University of Birmingham.

He examined the neurological and psychological evidence to support a concept of fetal pain.

Although still immature, the neural circuitry necessary for processing pain can be considered complete by 26 weeks' gestation, he explains. However, pain experience requires not only development of the brain but also development of the mind to accommodate the subjectivity of pain.

Development of the mind only occurs outside the womb, through the actions of the infant and interactions with primary caregivers.

So, not only is the biological development to support pain experience ongoing, but the environment after birth, so necessary to the development of pain experience, is also yet to occur, he says. As such, fetuses cannot experience pain.

The absence of pain in the fetus does not resolve the morality of abortion, but does argue against legal and clinical efforts to prevent such pain during an abortion, he adds.

Proposals currently being considered in the US to inform women seeking abortions of the potential for pain in fetuses, are not supported by the evidence. While a mandate to provide pain relief before an abortion may expose women to inappropriate interventions, risks, and distress.

"Avoiding a discussion of fetal pain with women requesting abortions is not misguided paternalism but a sound policy based on good evidence that fetuses cannot experience pain," he concludes.